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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was sentenced to a total of seven and a half years in prison Wednesday after a federal judge rejected his appeal for no additional time and rebuked him for his crimes and years of lies.?

Within minutes of the sentencing, prosecutors in New York brought state charges against Manafort — a move that appeared at least partly designed to guard against the possibility that President Donald Trump could pardon him. The president can pardon federal crimes, but not state offenses.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson sentenced Manafort to nearly three-and-a-half years in prison on charges that he misled the U.S. government about his foreign lobbying work and encouraged witnesses to lie on his behalf. That punishment is on top of a roughly four-year sentence he received last week in a separate case in Virginia. He is expected to get credit for the nine months of jail time he's done already.

The sentencing hearing was a milestone moment in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election campaign. Manafort was among the first people charged in the investigation, and though the allegations did not relate to his work for Trump, his foreign entanglements and business relationship with a man the U.S. says has ties to Russian intelligence have made him a pivotal figure in the probe.

Though the judge made clear that the case against Manafort had nothing to do with Russian election interference, she also scolded Manafort's lawyers for asserting that their client was only charged because prosecutors couldn't get him on crimes related to potential collusion with the Trump campaign.

"The no-collusion mantra is simply a non sequitur," she said, suggesting that those arguments were meant for an audience outside the courtroom — presumably a reference to the president, who has expressed sympathy for Manafort and not ruled out a pardon.

Jackson also harshly criticized Manafort for years of deception that extended even into her own courtroom and the grand jury. She said much of the information he provided to prosecutors after pleading guilty couldn't be used because of his history of deceit.

"It is hard to overstate the number of lies and the amount of fraud and the extraordinary amount of money involved" in the federal conspiracy charges related to his foreign lobbying work and witness tampering.

Reading from a three-page statement, Manafort asked for mercy and said the criminal charges against him have "taken everything from me already." He pleaded with the judge not to impose any additional time beyond the sentence he had received last week in a separate case in Virginia.

"I am sorry for what I have done and all the activities that have gotten us here today," Manafort said in a steady voice. "While I cannot undo the past, I will ensure that the future will be very different."

The 69-year-old, who arrived in court in a wheelchair, said he was the primary caregiver of his wife and wanted the chance for them to resume their life together.

"She needs me and I need her. I ask you to think of this and our need for each other as you deliberate," Manafort said. "This case has taken everything from me already — my properties, my cash, my life insurance, my trust accounts for my children and my grandchildren, and more."

His plea for leniency followed prosecutor Andrew Weissmann's scathing characterization of crimes that the government said spanned more than a decade and continued even while Manafort was awaiting trial. The prosecutor said Manafort took steps to conceal his foreign lobbying work, laundered millions of dollars to fund a lavish lifestyle and then, while on house arrest, coached other witnesses to lie on his behalf.

"I believe that is not reflective of someone who has learned a harsh lesson. It is not a reflection of remorse," Weissmann said. "It is evidence that something is wrong with sort of a moral compass, that someone in that position would choose to make that decision at that moment."

Defense lawyer Kevin Downing suggested Manafort was being unduly punished because of the "media frenzy" generated by the appointment of a special counsel.

"That results in a very harsh process for the defendant," Downing said.

After the hearing, Downing criticized Jackson's sentencing as "callous", "hostile" and "totally unnecessary" as he was shouted down by protesters.

"I think the judge showed that she is incredibly hostile toward Mr. Manafort and exhibited a level of callousness that I've not seen in a white-collar case in over 15 years of prosecutions," Downing told reporters, noting that he was "disappointed" by the sentence.

Wednesday's sentencing comes in a week of activity for the investigation. Mueller's prosecutors on Tuesday night updated a judge on the status of cooperation provided by one defendant, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, and are expected to do the same later in the week for another.

Mueller's investigation has shown signs of coming to a close and he is expected to soon deliver a report to the Justice Department.

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There is no better example of a disgusting cesspool creature than Manafort; colluding with Russians, borrowing millions from oligarchs, tampering with witnesses, and the amount of lies...

He is a manifestation of all that is Trump World - filth and scum...

"It is hard to overstate the number of lies and the amount of fraud and the extraordinary amount of money involved" in the federal conspiracy charges related to his foreign lobbying work and witness tampering.

And I expect these same words to uttered by the judge when the Great Orange Felon gets his turn in the dock.

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"I think the judge showed that she is incredibly hostile toward Mr. Manafort and exhibited a level of callousness that I've not seen in a white-collar case in over 15 years of prosecutions," Downing told reporters, noting that he was "disappointed" by the sentence.

I'm sure the current chair-warmer in the Oval Office will tweet out something similar soon enough, probably along with the terms "Presidential Harassment" and "No Collusion" in his word salad diatribe as well.

Meanwhile, facts and more say that sentencing guidelines for the crimes Manafort, Stone, and others are accused of call for far harsher punishments than what have been meted out so far. If anything, the judges have been far too lenient on the guilty.

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And watch somewhere down the line that the carrot-top sitting in the White House signs a pardon for him too!

If I were the state prosecutors, I would make sure this case extends at least to the end of Trump's current term because if Trump gives him a pardon now, it would not cover any state convictions!

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Arriving in a wheelchair; nice touch, Manafort. Hopefully he'll get even more time on the state charges that Dimwit can't pardon.

It matters not that Manafort's crimes don't relate to possible collusion; a criminal was brought to justice. Since I'm not soft on crime like Trumpophiles, I'm not screeching about the lack collusion in these cases.

I love the smell of justice in the morning. There's no other smell like it in the world. It smells like . . . victory.

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Yeah this couldn’t be a witch hunt right? Within minutes, new charges. Keep that narrative alive.

Again the judge says nothing to do with Russia. His partner in these contracts, Tony Podesta, seems to have fallen off the end of the earth somewhere.

Within minutes of the sentencing, prosecutors in New York brought state charges against Manafort —

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The 69-year-old, who arrived in court in a wheelchair, said he was the primary caregiver of his wife and wanted the chance for them to resume their life together.

Manafort in a wheelchair - who shares my (shamelessly cynical) opinion that he'd be dancing a jig if Trump pardoned him?

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"The no-collusion mantra is simply a non sequitur," she said, suggesting that those arguments were meant for an audience outside the courtroom — presumably a reference to the president, who has expressed sympathy for Manafort and not ruled out a pardon.

Bit difficult to pardon someone when you're heading the same direction, mind.

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Again the judge says nothing to do with Russia.?

Black, the charges have nothing to do with Russia, but you'd have to be blind to ignore the fact that Manafort had long been employed by Russian oligarchs and subsequently hired as Trump's campaign manager. More fun lies ahead, particularly with all that foreign money sloshing around Trump's inaugural ceremony. Some must have made off like - Manafort.

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He at least got that one right:

"While I cannot undo the past, I will ensure that the future will be very different."

His future will be a life behind prison bars, at least for the time being.

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"This case has taken everything from me already — my properties, my cash, my life insurance, my trust accounts for my children and my grandchildren, and more."

The crimes behind this case also gave you everything - your properties, your cash, your life insurance, your trust accounts for your children and your grandchildren, and more. You sold out your country for these things. Now you expect the country to feel bad that you've had to forfeit them?

This guy hasn't learned a thing. He talks as is he is the victim. Pathetic. Let him die in jail. He's useless to society.

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I don’t have that much sympathy for the man, the only thing I hate is the political hypocrisy tied to all of this. Had Manafort worked for any other Republican candidate we would have never known about this or had John Podesta worked for Trump, he’d be in the same position as Manafort,even though both men had close business dealings with One another. If only the Feds would have gone after Hillary (as well as her cohorts as well) But liberals and their surrogate lap dogs will will go after their enimies only, the einte truth is irrelevant and in spite of all of this, still No Russian collusion.

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The sentencing hearing was a milestone moment in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election campaign

Yeah, that dud is finally coming to a close. Nancy Pelosi has seen the report and thus is backing off impeaching Trump.

There is no better example of a disgusting cesspool creature than Manafort

Oh, there's plenty of examples. Hillary Clinton comes to mind.

He is a manifestation of all that is Trump World - filth and scum...

Any actual dirt on Trump yet? What about collusion?

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Lock Them up! Drain Trump’s swamp!

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What can I say except "I Love New York?"

Bottom line? Let's call it for what it is. Trump is a criminal who is not heading up an administration. He is heading up a crime syndicate.

Let the states lead where the GOP fails to go.

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But liberals and their surrogate lap dogs will will go after their enimies only, the einte truth is irrelevant

What?

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The sentencing hearing was a milestone moment in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election campaign

Yeah, that dud is finally coming to a close. Nancy Pelosi has seen the report and thus is backing off impeaching Trump.

37 indictments on 191 charges - and more to come...some dud.

There is no better example of a disgusting cesspool creature than Manafort

Oh, there's plenty of examples. Hillary Clinton comes to mind.

I notice she's always on Trumpers minds, kind'a creepy actually...

He is a manifestation of all that is Trump World - filth and scum...

Any actual dirt on Trump yet? What about collusion?

Dirt? The guy's a walking garbage pit. Collusion? Then just answer this question - why did Trump lie when asked about the Trump Tower meeting with Russians? Why did he lie about dictating the memo, which also contained a lie, about the meeting being about adoptions?

If there was no collusion, why lie?

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Yeah, that dud is finally coming to a close. Nancy Pelosi has seen the report and thus is backing off impeaching Trump.

Sooooo... If the report doesn't indicate collusion you'll support the findings or it's still a dud?

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David VarnesToday 07:06 am JST"I think the judge showed that she is incredibly hostile toward Mr. Manafort and exhibited a level of callousness that I've not seen in a white-collar case in over 15 years of prosecutions," Downing told reporters, noting that he was "disappointed" by the sentence.

I'm sure the current chair-warmer in the Oval Office will tweet out something similar soon enough, probably along with the terms "Presidential Harassment" and "No Collusion" in his word salad diatribe as well.

The Traitor on keeps chanting that 'no collusion' like he's trying to convince himself of it. His guilt is shining in full glare.

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Seems at least 1 yr of jail for every $1M in tax evasion is the minimal sentence required. 2 yrs if you lie about it.

Borrowing money from Russians or Russian corporations isn't illegal, btw. Using it to "buy influence" is.

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Trump is a criminal?

If that be the case, Crazy, then why hasn't he been charged with anything? Tell Mueller to get with it, lol.

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the report IS a total dud if it doesnt link Trump to anything personally.

Thats what media people been screaming about every day for the last 2 years. Must be a reason Pelosi and Schiff backed off of impeachment suddenly.

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Manafort will die in prison. It will take some time for Trump fans to accept that he's a criminal even if Trump likes him.

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Must be a reason Pelosi and Schiff backed off of impeachment suddenly.

Can't believe there hasn't been an article about that on JT. Pelosi's interview with the Washington Post appeared on March 11th.

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Yep hes a criminal all right. All personal crimes related to lobbying in Ukraine with Tony Podesta or his personal finances/taxes.

Nothing to do with Trump, which is what was promised (but yet to be delivered) by Mueller fans.

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Blacklabel: Yep hes a criminal all right.

Agreed. Trump’s campaign manager is a criminal.

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ok, so what was he convicted of that was related to his only connection to Trump, the campaign for 4 months?

I am sure Trump's pizza delivery guy and Trump's stewardess and Trump's waiter are probably also criminals.

Probably so are yours and mine.

So what does it mean if nothing that the person does was even related to you?

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Manafort left August 19th. How did Manafort leaving months before the election help Trump win an election that liberals swore to me even the day before the vote that he wouldnt win?

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Typical Manafort.....aside from a brief reference to his wife, he basically only mentions all the money he has lost because that's all he cares about. Trump should share a cell with him.

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ok, so what was he convicted of that was related to his only connection to Trump, the campaign for 4 months?

Well first of all, he cheated on his taxes and committed other crimes, which regardless of his political connections, deserve to be punished. Next, does the fact that Trump's campaign manager has worked with Russian operatives and is, in fact indebted to them, not bother you? Consider the sudden change in the Republican platform. Why did the GOP soften its stance towards Russia and why does Trump have such a soft spot for Russia.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't know if Trump colluded with Russia, but it seems someone in his camp did. Its too much of a coincidence that the GOP stance on Russia softened at the same time Manafort just happened to be campaign manager. Its too much of coincidence that Trump refuses to release his taxes at the same time his sons have claimed to borrow from Russian organizations, while Trump continues to praise Putin and trash US intelligence.

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I just want to point out that Manafort was not convicted of anything related to carjacking. So when you look at what he was convicted of, remember that he didn’t steal a car at gunpoint.

Podesta.

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Trump is a criminal?

If that be the case, Crazy, then why hasn't he been charged with anything? Tell Mueller to get with it, lol.

You know what's in Mueller's report? You know the names of the 26 sealed indictments already filed with the court?

Yep hes a criminal all right. All personal crimes related to lobbying in Ukraine with Tony Podesta or his personal finances/taxes.

Wrong. Witness tampering, tax evasion, fraud - what a sleezeball - and your President may pardon him. Birds of a feather...

Nothing to do with Trump, which is what was promised (but yet to be delivered) by Mueller fans.

Keep hoping...

And why don't you guys stop dodging and answer the question;

Why did Trump lie when asked about the Trump Tower meeting with Russians? Why did he lie about dictating the memo, which also contained a lie, about the meeting being about adoptions?

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Mueller was paid 30 million dollars to answer all your questions. I dont think you are going to like his answers.

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Mueller was paid 30 million dollars to answer all your questions.

Lol He was not paid 30 million dollars. Please stop talking nonsense. The investigation may have received 30 million dollars, but Mueller certainly did not receive the money personally. Enough with this nonsense.

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ok Mueller and his team. whatever. We have waited nearly 2 years for them to respond to all your baseless accusations with proof. But now Dems in Congress are just starting the investigation all over. Not a good sign for you guys.

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So anyway, I guess everyone is perfectly fine with NY state waiting until 2 separate cases and verdicts were issued, then minutes later indicting the same person again for some of the same crimes (thus the blatant mention of "sovereign")

"This was an obvious allusion to the?dual sovereign doctrine, which was developed as a rationale for states to prosecute defendants based on the same conduct for which they have already been charged at a federal level without impinging upon their constitutionally protected right against double jeopardy."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/13/opinions/ny-prosecutors-indictment-of-manafort-looks-political-polisi/index.html

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ok Mueller and his team. whatever.

No, no. Not whatever. Conflating and claiming Mueller or his team got paid millions is garbage- don't do it.

We have waited nearly 2 years for them to respond to all your baseless accusations with proof.

Investigations take time. Don't just take my word for it. Here's a link with a list to the average times for special investigations.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-long-special-prosecutor-mueller-trump-2017-6

Why the rush? Its like you're afraid of what we might find out about a scumbag like Trump.

But now Dems in Congress are just starting the investigation all over. Not a good sign for you guys.

No,no. Its to be expected when Republicans did a half-ass job the first time around. Republicans interviewed no one. Seriously?

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Blacklabel: So anyway, I guess everyone is perfectly fine with NY state waiting until 2 separate cases and verdicts were issued, then minutes later indicting the same person again for some of the same crimes (thus the blatant mention of "sovereign")

In the same way your comfortable with Trump choosing a scummy felon as his campaign manager.

Podesta.

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*you’re

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ok Mueller and his team. whatever.

Pesky truth and fact checking!

We have waited nearly 2 years for them to respond to all your baseless accusations with proof.

Baseless accusations? There's people already serving time or been indicted. And why the rush?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/complete-watergate-timeline-took-longer-realize

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no different than liberals screaming Trump over and over. then I find its Trumps associate or adviser or campaign manager or lawyer and not Trump himself.

It doesnt matter by now, Schiff said if Mueller finds nothing thats ok. because then we have to wait until the end of his investigation. and the next guy's. Its gonna stretch out to 2020 when Trump gets reelected.

Mueller and his team DID get personally paid millions by now. you might want to research that.

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"The first report was released in December 2017, and it covered the first four and a half months of the probe, from May 17 to Sept. 30, 2017.

According to this first report, the Mueller investigation spent $3.2 million directly during that period. The biggest category was $1.7 million for staff salaries"

So 1.7 milllon in salary for 4.5 months.....equals how much for almost 2 years?

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The cost of the investigation is relatively small when you look at some historical investigations and also the return that has come from the investigation.

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no different than liberals screaming Trump over and over. then I find its Trumps associate or adviser or campaign manager or lawyer and not Trump himself.

To be clear, it does not bother you that Trump's campaign manager worked for and owed Russian organizations money?

Its gonna stretch out to 2020 when Trump gets reelected.

Other than the fact that you now know you voted for a scumbag, what difference does it matter? Investigations take time.

So 1.7 milllon in salary for 4.5 months.....equals how much for almost 2 years?

lolololol Amongst how many attorneys? A dozen or more?!?! Wow!!!! They really got paid. Hey, how much does an average attorney make in a year? Your claims are just silly.

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Oh ok so I proved they got paid millions in salary. So now you are like well of course they would, they are lawyers and there are a lot of them. Yep there are- Mueller and his team.

Conflating and claiming Mueller or his team got paid millions is garbage- don't do it.

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Oh ok so I proved they got paid millions in salary. So now you are like well of course they would, they are lawyers and there are a lot of them. Yep there are- Mueller and his team.

A team of some of the top lawyers getting paid millions collectively, not individually, is hardly news. Good grief. How much do you think attorneys actually make? $50k? lol Get out of here with that.

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I know they got paid millions. You were the one claiming otherwise. It benefits mueller and his team to the tune of 1.7 million in salaries to drag this out 4 more months.

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Seriously... who cares about the cost of the investigation when it's already raked in more than it has cost? It's also peanuts compared to the Clinton investigation which cost more both in money and time. Don't be pathetic.

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Mueller was paid 30 million dollars to answer all your questions. I dont think you are going to like his answers.

What's the matter - can't defend your guy? Come on, why can't you answer it? If you can't, just admit you have no reasonable answer as to why Trump would lie three times about meetings between Don Jr, Jared, and Manafort with Russian agents at Trump Tower.

Because if you can't offer one, then the only reasonable answer is it's collusion...

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Still waiting for an answer to my question - if Trump is a criminal, why hasn't he been charged with a crime?

Mueller can't be this inept...

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I find its Trumps?associate?or?adviser?or?campaign manager?or?lawyer?and not Trump himself.

Interpretation of US law is that a sitting president cannot be put under conviction for any crime unless and until impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate - or is voted out of office. Some have suggested the main reason Trump desires a second term for a job he clearly abhors is that would allow him to run out the statute of limitations clock on many of the crimes he knows he's suspected of. Also, the House's investigation is just underway after two years of GOP stalling, and Mueller's report remains incomplete (coupla Trump boys yet to be interviewed, I figure).

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Mueller's report remains incomplete (coupla Trump boys yet to be interviewed

Yeah, they still haven't interviewed Barron or any of his friends.

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Still waiting for an answer to my question - if Trump is a criminal, why hasn't he been charged with a crime?

When you're investigating a major criminal enterprise, you want to make sure you cover all bases. It's not just his dodgy businesses, casinos, colleges, obstructionism, collusion, sexual assaults, tax improprieties etc.

Such wide reaching investigations can take a lot of time. After all, that's a lot of fine combing to do.

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I know they got paid millions. You were the one claiming otherwise. It benefits mueller and his team to the tune of 1.7 million in salaries to drag this out 4 more months.

Not once did I say the Mueller campaign received millions in funding. That is true. You, however, claimed Mueller got paid millions. Then you backed down and said well, he didn't get paid millions, but his team did. Who cares? Who really cares if a dozen lawyers get paid several million dollars collectively. They still weren't paid millions individual.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but it certainly seems you are trying to paint this whole thing as a money grab for connected lawyers. That couldn't be further from the truth. After all, the lawyers on the case could be making more than they are:

http://money.com/money/5306210/mueller-trump-investigation-pay/

In fact, several lawyers took pay cuts to work with Mueller. Your claim is just silly.

Perhaps, you're more concerned about the amount of money the investigation costs. Well, the investigation has turned up more in penalties and fines than it has cost. Here you go:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/17/mueller-probe-could-turn-a-profit-thanks-to-manafort-assets.html

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When you're investigating a major criminal enterprise, you want to make sure you cover all bases.

They did, there won’t be anything on the Russian collusion, if anything, it’ll be about some former business dealings from the past, the haters will be shocked (apparently, they don’t understand how business deals work) for the supporters or people in the middle it will be a....ok, so what...

It's not just his dodgy businesses, casinos, colleges, obstructionism, collusion, sexual assaults, tax improprieties etc.

None of which will get the President kicked out of office. Pelosi is Right for once in her life, Dems shouldn’t go down that road, but if they want to waste their time (I sure hope so) then they should do it. Obviously, they didn’t learn anything from 1998, 2010, 2014.

Such wide reaching investigations can take a lot of time. After all, that's a lot of fine combing to do.

Yeah, sure...lol

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if Trump is a criminal, why hasn't he been charged with a crime?

It's quite likely he already has - Mueller has filed a number of sealed indictments already. Trump cannot be charged while he is president, but the day he becomes not president, I expect we see a number of indictments to suddenly become unsealed.

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the haters will be shocked (apparently, they don’t understand how business deals work) for the supporters or people in the middle it will be a....ok, so what...

So far it seems team Trump's business deals result in jail, fraud, indictments, investigations and lying. I'm sure some will balk at the fallout from such conduct. More collars need to be felt and no stone (Roger, or otherwise) should be left unturned.

None of which will get the President kicked out of office.

I'm sure Nixon acolytes thought the same at the time.

Pelosi is Right for once in her life, Dems shouldn’t go down that road, but if they want to waste their time (I sure hope so) then they should do it.

Pelosi is catering towards her liberal base. It's a poor move on her part but with team Trump, things have a habit of changing.

Yeah, sure...lol

What?

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Serrano

Fear not. He'll be charged soon. Hang on a little longer.

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So far it seems team Trump's business deals result in jail, fraud, indictments, investigations and lying.

But nothing to do with Russia, so phewwww, he’s safe.

I'm sure some will balk at the fallout from such conduct. More collars need to be felt and no stone (Roger, or otherwise) should be left unturned.

Let’s hope they go after Page, Podesta, Strozok, McCabe, Comey, Hillary, Lynch, Lerner, Rice and Holder, yes, they should not leave any stone unturned!

I'm sure Nixon acolytes thought the same at the time.

The difference is, a lot of Republicans thought he was a crook they don’t think like that about Trump.

Pelosi is catering towards her liberal base. It's a poor move on her part but with team Trump, things have a habit of changing.

Says the supporter of Democrats being for the working man and now for being the government should completely take care of you.

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@blacklabel

Again the judge says nothing to do with Russia.

Not as exoneration. These are the judge's words: "The ‘no collusion’ refrain that runs through the entire defence memorandum is entirely unrelated to the matter in hand."

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But nothing to do with Russia, so phewwww, he’s safe.

Lots to do with Russia, Trump business in Russia, Ukraine tangents etc. Perhaps you should pay closer attention to the finer details ? Just a thought.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11

Let’s hope they go after Page, Podesta, Strozok, McCabe, Comey, Hillary, Lynch, Lerner, Rice and Holder, yes, they should not leave any stone unturned!

Well, if the investigation is into Trump, why would they? Unless there are ties with the Trump junta, maybe keep the focus on the current criminals.

The difference is, a lot of Republicans thought he was a crook they don’t think like that about Trump.

Nope, it's uncanny how many parallels there are with then and now. Nixonians were adamant about the witch hunt at the time.

Says the supporter of Democrats being for the working man and now for being the government should completely take care of you.

I'm not a Democrat or a liberal. In fact, I've said all along that the Dems are just the flip side of the coin. Yes, there are younger members who are going against status quo and I hope they continue. You are aware that people who don't support Trump aren't automatically Dem supporters, right?

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Don’t need exoneration from unproven allegations. Burden of proof is on the accuser.

There's no place like home

There's no place like home

Ad infinitum...

30 something people indicted so far. Those ruby shoes are getting grubby, innit.

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Lots to do with Russia, Trump business in Russia, Ukraine tangents etc. Perhaps you should pay closer attention to the finer details ? Just a thought.?

Funny, if that were true then Spliff, Nadler and Cummings wouldn’t fear up to continue further investigations. This is beginning to look so stupid and pathetic. Every Democrat screamed to the mountain top that we need to pass a resolution to allow Mueller to finish his work and Dems said, whatever Mueller finds that is what everyone should accept and now that it seems the report might not be the Democrats hoped for, the House Democrats will continue searching.....

For what we haven’t figured that out yet.

I’ll take Lisa Page’s word since she hated the man so much.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-prove-trump-russia-collusion-before-mueller.

Well, if the investigation is into Trump, why would they?

To be fair and impartial....non-political...you know that kind of thing...

Unless there are ties with the Trump junta, maybe keep the focus on the current criminals.

I wonder about Uranium One and fast and furious myself, so I do get your point.

Nope, it's uncanny how many parallels there are with then and now. Nixonians were adamant about the witch hunt at the time.

Really, I see more parraels between the Dems during Reagan’s era.

I'm not a Democrat or a liberal.

You’re not a conservative either, so let me guess.....

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Funny, if that were true then Spliff

Who is Spliff? You keep mentioning him but he doesn't seem to exist.

To be fair and impartial....non-political...you know that kind of thing...

Sure but how does that tally with investigations into team Trump's wrongdoings?

You’re not a conservative either, so let me guess.....

Guess away, it's not a black and white thing, there's a political spectrum, see, and not everyone is a lib or a con.

You do comprehend that (at least, outside of America) people can move along the spectrum, right? I understand you have difficulties when it comes to political and ideological interests but still, no harm in a bit of research.

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The investigations by the Democrats are different investigations from Mueller. They are essentially doing the investigations that the Republicans refused to start themselves as protecting their President was more important than finding the truth. They aren’t “starting over.”

From the beginning I predicted Trump wouldn’t go down for collusion. It’s nealy impossible to prove. But let’s see if the proven scammer amd known liar can make it through everything else. And let’s watch his fans cheer on the sewer rat as information becomes public.

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That “mandate” that mueller was given had specific things and none have been found as they relate to Trump. Prove your allegations.

Prove you have read Mueller’s mandate.

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any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”

Yeah, numerous members of Trump's dumpster fire have committed purjury- a crime arising from the investigation. Next. Or do we really need to go further?

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Well a lot of this is Trump's own doing. No one told him to go on national TV and announce to the world that he fired Comey because of the investigation. And no one told him and his people to consistently lie about their contacts with Russia.

If it's a witch hunt it because Trump put on a black hat and rode around on a broom in front of everyone.

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Such wide reaching investigations can take a lot of time.?

Mueller's had two years.

Fear not. He'll be charged soon. Hang on a little longer.

Charged with what? Political incorrectness? Guilty as charged!

If it's a witch hunt it because Trump put on a black hat and rode around on a broom in front of everyone.

Maybe it's just Google having a brain fart but I can't seem to find any photos or video of Trump wearing a black hat and riding around on a broom. No,wait, I found one! It's photo-shopped, though, lol.

https://tenor.com/view/witchhunt-trump-donald-broom-gif-12055322

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Well a lot of this is Trump's own doing. No one told him to go on national TV and announce to the world that he fired Comey because of the investigation.

He was toast anyway because had Hillary won the Presidency (thank God we dodged THAT bullet) she would have fired him as well and Rosenstein recommended Trump should fire him, so to say it was all his doing, is not accurate, he had every reason to fire Comey.

And no one told him and his people to consistently lie about their contacts with Russia.

What? Oh, dear lord...lol

No one told Hillary to sell a portion of Uranium One to the Russians either.

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America was so divided by politics and hatred between Democrat supporters and Republican supporters as well as among the judges and prosecutors who must be independence, impartiality and neutrality as their duty. I think Robert Muller's investigation should be wrapped up ASAP and take action against whoever broke the law. It seems to be Robert Muller has intention for his investigation for Russian meddling in the US Election into 2020 unless someone order him to wrap up his investigation. The FBI was incompetent and corrupted organization. If the FBI was competent organization and its leadership has integrity and then the Russian won't be meddling in the US election. It's FBI fault and the Leader of organization fault. Comey had screwed Hillary Clinton and he destroyed her chances of becoming first American President.

Democrats, Liberal left wing journalists and Robert Muller are trying to stop President Trump re-election, but I believe it will be backfired because their actions are ridiculous and undecided voters will favor Trump for second term re-election base on his job.

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Bass:. He was toast anyway?

Dodge. It's entirely reasonable to investigate a President who openly says he fired the head of the FBI because of an investigation into the President. Trump did it to himself.

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And now you have the Whittaker situation and Cohen's investigation in New York.

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And, of course, Flynn.

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Pile it on, baby, pile it on!

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What's this 'uranium one' claptrap? Russia already has the Bomb!?Do you remember the Cold War? Do you remember history before 2 years ago?

http://intersectionproject.eu/article/economy/understanding-russias-appetite-uranium

I do, but it seems liberals don’t, remember theirs.

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Dodge. It's entirely reasonable to investigate a President who openly says he fired the head of the FBI because of an investigation into the President. Trump did it to himself.

No, constitutionally, he had every right to get rid of Comey, Rosenstein recommended it, sure, he turned it around on him, but as acting Lt. second in commend, when Trump asked, he told him he should get rid of him and you guys can’t say anything, the people that were appalled when Comey was investigating Hillary, but now we know through Lisa Page, they were never going to charge Hillary, there job was to see that not happen. Her words, the is was in all along.

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Bass:. No, constitutionally, he had every right to get rid of Comey,?

Dodge. He said he fired him because of the Russia investigation. That's obstruction of justice. He does not have every right to do that.

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SuperLib -?Dodge. He said he fired him because of the Russia investigation. That's obstruction of justice.

LOL. According to whom? Democrats? Hillary worshippers? Random?internet posters?

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LOL. According to whom? Democrats? Hillary worshippers? Random?internet posters?

The law.

Why do you guys hate the law? Why do you hate America?

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After I told Blacklabel to prove he had read Mueller's mandate, he seems to have conveniently disappeared from the thread.

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No, constitutionally, he had every right to get rid of Comey,

Unless it was for an illegal purpose such as obstructing justice.

Rosenstein recommended it, sure, he turned it around on him, but as acting Lt. second in commend, when Trump asked, he told him he should get rid of him and you guys can’t say anything

We don't have to saying anything given Rosenstein has already debunked this right-wing conspiracy theory.

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That's obstruction of justice. He does not have every right to do that.

Uh-huh...I’ll go with one of the smartest and most knowledge professor lawyer, legal mind out there over what liberal pundits or the surrogate corrupt FBI lapdogs of the establishment on TV are screaming.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-james-comey-firing-legal-trump-russia-investigation

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If only the Feds would have gone after Hillary

That's Trump's failure. He promised to put Trump in jail. And who stated the "LOCK HER UP" campaign? That was flynn. Flynn tried to lock Hillary up then Hillary turned around and got Flyyn locked up. Hillary is a one bad mother. Can't touch Hillary.

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Uh-huh...I’ll go with one of the smartest and most knowledge professor lawyer, legal mind out there over what liberal pundits or the surrogate corrupt FBI lapdogs of the establishment on TV are screaming.

What's a "most knowledge professor lawyer, legal mind"?

Dershowitz isn't the on the grand jury, won't be the judge or on the jury, which means he does not and will not have full access to all of the evidence.

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Strangerland -?The law.

Why do you guys hate the law? Why do you hate America?

If you believe you have actual proof of obstruction of justice, then all you have to do is file charges. Unless, of course,?you're concerned with being arrested for filing false charges. This would only apply to U.S. citizens. Foreigners wouldn't have any legal standing to file such charges.

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Chip Star - Dershowitz isn't the on the grand jury, won't be the judge or on the jury, which means he does not and will not have full access to all of the evidence.

Neither do any of the Democrats who have been repeatedly claiming that the Mueller investigation actually?had evidence of "collusion", and various other wishful thoughts. (Sing along?- To dream the impossible dream...). The Democrats are going to look awful silly when it becomes apparent that they've been lying about seeing evidence that doesn't actually exist.

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Neither do any of the Democrats who have been repeatedly claiming that the Mueller investigation actually?had evidence of "collusion", and various other wishful thoughts. (Sing along?- To dream the impossible dream...). The Democrats are going to look awful silly when it becomes apparent that they've been lying about seeing evidence that doesn't actually exist.

The right, speaking from experience with their Hillary investigation debacle.

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Neither do any of the Democrats who have been repeatedly claiming that the Mueller investigation actually?had evidence of "collusion"

Um, no. Unlike your team, we haven't been claiming we know the internals of the Mueller investigation.

and various other wishful thoughts.

Um, like Manafort being guilty? Like Flynn being guilty? Like the Russians interfering in the elections?

Not wishful whatsoever.

The Democrats are going to look awful silly when it becomes apparent that they've been lying about seeing evidence that doesn't actually exist.

Kind of like how you're looking silly right now making a claim with no basis in reality?

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They did, there won’t be anything on the Russian collusion, if anything, it’ll be about some former business dealings from the past, the haters will be shocked (apparently, they don’t understand how business deals work) for the supporters or people in the middle it will be a....ok, so what...

It's not just his dodgy businesses, casinos, colleges, obstructionism, collusion, sexual assaults, tax improprieties etc.

None of which will get the President kicked out of office. Pelosi is Right for once in her life, Dems shouldn’t go down that road, but if they want to waste their time (I sure hope so) then they should do it. Obviously, they didn’t learn anything from 1998, 2010, 2014.

Blacklabel,REALLY? She doesn't want to go down the road of impeachment because the GOP is too afraid and too stupid and too much in the Russian money to do it. How much did Mitch get from the Russians? And Lindsey, maybe they have data on his boy-boy love, and got a lot more of it too on the others. Or they were just bought off. But if impeachment can be had over Bill Clinton's perjury over a blow job, then it will be easy to get a perjury charge that sticks with Trump. He can NOT HELP BUT LIE. Piece of cake. But the GOP will always stick up for their liars and thugs. Our founders never imagined that scenario, but one did say that party politics was very dangerous and should be avoided.

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